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	<title>Comments for Harold Jarche</title>
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		<title>Comment on personal knowledge management &amp; wisdom by Atle Iversen</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/personal-knowledge-management-wisdom/comment-page-1/#comment-196625</link>
		<dc:creator>Atle Iversen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your PKM posts are always interesting, even if I don&#039;t always agree with everything  :-)

I think the DIKW model is fine for explaining the basic idea. Unfortunately, there is not always 100% agreement on what each part actually is.

I&#039;ll use this explanation: 
Data is symbols, information is processed data (who, what, where, when) while knowledge is expertise that answers &quot;how&quot; questions. You may also use wisdom to answer the &quot;why&quot;.

I  think your &quot;sense&quot; part is important
 - make sense of data = information
 - make sense of information = knowledge
 - make sense of knowledge = wisdom

The &quot;knowledge&quot; part is often context-sensitive (information applied in a certain context) while wisdom is usually reached after reflection and experience (if reached at all) and is often very subjective (I guess as we move from D to I to K to W it gets less objective and more subjective ?)

PKM itself will not make us any wiser, but it can *help us* become wiser by helping us *make sense* of the information and knowledge that we have. I like this part of your model !

However, it is important to note that the last, final step is not Share (as it seems like in your model), but USE !

Knowledge (or wisdom, for that matter) is of no value if it isn&#039;t USED ! It doesn&#039;t matter if YOU use it, or if you Share it and OTHERS use it, but the ultimate goal is to make Sense of the data and information so that it can be USED by someone (for something).

Well, at least this is *my* opinion :-)

My 2 cents on this:
 - http://www.ppcsoft.com/blog/km-3-1.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your PKM posts are always interesting, even if I don&#8217;t always agree with everything  <img src='http://www.jarche.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think the DIKW model is fine for explaining the basic idea. Unfortunately, there is not always 100% agreement on what each part actually is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll use this explanation:<br />
Data is symbols, information is processed data (who, what, where, when) while knowledge is expertise that answers &#8220;how&#8221; questions. You may also use wisdom to answer the &#8220;why&#8221;.</p>
<p>I  think your &#8220;sense&#8221; part is important<br />
 &#8211; make sense of data = information<br />
 &#8211; make sense of information = knowledge<br />
 &#8211; make sense of knowledge = wisdom</p>
<p>The &#8220;knowledge&#8221; part is often context-sensitive (information applied in a certain context) while wisdom is usually reached after reflection and experience (if reached at all) and is often very subjective (I guess as we move from D to I to K to W it gets less objective and more subjective ?)</p>
<p>PKM itself will not make us any wiser, but it can *help us* become wiser by helping us *make sense* of the information and knowledge that we have. I like this part of your model !</p>
<p>However, it is important to note that the last, final step is not Share (as it seems like in your model), but USE !</p>
<p>Knowledge (or wisdom, for that matter) is of no value if it isn&#8217;t USED ! It doesn&#8217;t matter if YOU use it, or if you Share it and OTHERS use it, but the ultimate goal is to make Sense of the data and information so that it can be USED by someone (for something).</p>
<p>Well, at least this is *my* opinion <img src='http://www.jarche.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My 2 cents on this:<br />
 &#8211; <a href="http://www.ppcsoft.com/blog/km-3-1.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ppcsoft.com/blog/km-3-1.asp</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Sense-making by Harold Jarche &#187; personal knowledge management &#38; wisdom</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/sense-making/comment-page-1/#comment-196618</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche &#187; personal knowledge management &#38; wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ways of adding value to information I described in my last post (Filtering; Validation; Synthesis; Presentation; Customization) are not a series of steps, only [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sense-making by Dennis Callahan</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/sense-making/comment-page-1/#comment-196556</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the new addition.  My version of this is listening (input), thinking (purify) and speaking (output) in the context of a learnstream.  Seek, sense and share might be easier to remember.

The value scale in the visual throws me off a little.  It  tells me that seeking = low value, sharing = high value and sensing is something in-between.  A scale that starts at “lower” or “lowest” value to “higher” or “highest” seems more accommodating to the different perspectives and motives for the information.  This might be what you’re indicating in the sense color gradient (indicating more value as the color fades).  This post is more than low value to me even though I may not present and customize at this time.

“Whatever we make transparent is value-added information for others, especially if we do it consciously and well.”  Good point.  It’s also another form of value-add for you (and others) because you invite others into the synthesis process to help advance the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the new addition.  My version of this is listening (input), thinking (purify) and speaking (output) in the context of a learnstream.  Seek, sense and share might be easier to remember.</p>
<p>The value scale in the visual throws me off a little.  It  tells me that seeking = low value, sharing = high value and sensing is something in-between.  A scale that starts at “lower” or “lowest” value to “higher” or “highest” seems more accommodating to the different perspectives and motives for the information.  This might be what you’re indicating in the sense color gradient (indicating more value as the color fades).  This post is more than low value to me even though I may not present and customize at this time.</p>
<p>“Whatever we make transparent is value-added information for others, especially if we do it consciously and well.”  Good point.  It’s also another form of value-add for you (and others) because you invite others into the synthesis process to help advance the idea.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seek Sense Share by Harold Jarche &#187; Sense-making</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/seek-sense-share/comment-page-1/#comment-196546</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche &#187; Sense-making</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has discussed how important it is to Filter, in the process of Aggregate-Filter-Connect. I have recently used Seek-Sense-Share to describe [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Seek Sense Share by Mas sobre PKM&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/seek-sense-share/comment-page-1/#comment-196477</link>
		<dc:creator>Mas sobre PKM&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just finished reading Harold Jarche’s post: Seek, Sense, ShareIn the post, he talks about how seeking information, then applying our personal sense-making filters [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on PKM: a node in the learning network by Mas sobre PKM&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/pkm-a-node-in-the-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-196475</link>
		<dc:creator>Mas sobre PKM&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Favourite Workplace Learning Blogs by Karyn Romeis</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/favourite-workplace-learning-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-196467</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am flattered to be in such illustrious company!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Social media &amp; workplace performance matrix by Karyn Romeis</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/social-media-workplace-performance-matrix/comment-page-1/#comment-196466</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why we love Jane Hart! She is such an asset to this community!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Filtering is about trust by Simon Bostock</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/filtering-is-about-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-196462</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Bostock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then we are in total agreement. In fact, it&#039;s hard to see anybody disagreeing with the idea of improving an organisation&#039;s ability to manage change and leverage the expertise of its members.

And I think the idea of creating &quot;challenges for organizations to help them learn&quot; is the right one - it&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve been doing for the last few years :)

But I&#039;ve never made any headway when calling it &#039;training&#039;.  I&#039;ve never managed to persuade an organisation to do &#039;collective training&#039; but I have project managed &#039;business development&#039;/&#039;service development&#039;/&#039;innovation&#039; programmes.

I like Gilbert&#039;s idea of the Black Box. It reminds me of the idea of a barium meal - feed some new skills/information to an organisation and record how fast and with what fidelity the signal reaches the bowels of the organisation...

Which I suppose is where I struggle with the word &#039;training&#039; - or, more accurately, my clients do. (Training has long been a term of art for me.)

Training = input = measurable improvement in ability against target. This we&#039;re talking about here is utterly different in terms of metrics. Training the organisation ~= development ~= increased responsiveness (with any &#039;target&#039; likely to have unintended consequences).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then we are in total agreement. In fact, it&#8217;s hard to see anybody disagreeing with the idea of improving an organisation&#8217;s ability to manage change and leverage the expertise of its members.</p>
<p>And I think the idea of creating &#8220;challenges for organizations to help them learn&#8221; is the right one &#8211; it&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;ve been doing for the last few years <img src='http://www.jarche.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve never made any headway when calling it &#8216;training&#8217;.  I&#8217;ve never managed to persuade an organisation to do &#8216;collective training&#8217; but I have project managed &#8216;business development&#8217;/&#8217;service development&#8217;/'innovation&#8217; programmes.</p>
<p>I like Gilbert&#8217;s idea of the Black Box. It reminds me of the idea of a barium meal &#8211; feed some new skills/information to an organisation and record how fast and with what fidelity the signal reaches the bowels of the organisation&#8230;</p>
<p>Which I suppose is where I struggle with the word &#8216;training&#8217; &#8211; or, more accurately, my clients do. (Training has long been a term of art for me.)</p>
<p>Training = input = measurable improvement in ability against target. This we&#8217;re talking about here is utterly different in terms of metrics. Training the organisation ~= development ~= increased responsiveness (with any &#8216;target&#8217; likely to have unintended consequences).</p>
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		<title>Comment on PKM: a node in the learning network by Egyéni tudásmenedzsment és nyitott egyetemek &#8211; tanulási és oktatási jöv?képek &#171; Radiozoom Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/pkm-a-node-in-the-learning-network/comment-page-1/#comment-196461</link>
		<dc:creator>Egyéni tudásmenedzsment és nyitott egyetemek &#8211; tanulási és oktatási jöv?képek &#171; Radiozoom Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2 szinten egy-egy irányvonal, hogy a haladás hogyan képzelhet? el, illetve valósítható meg. Harold Jarche azt mondja az egyikre (tanulás), hogy PKE kell, kutatni &#8211; értelmezni &#8211; megosztani, [...]</description>
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