Comments on: Instructional or Formal; whatever http://www.jarche.com/2010/04/instructional-or-formal-whatever/ Life in Perpetual Beta Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Harold Jarche http://www.jarche.com/2010/04/instructional-or-formal-whatever/comment-page-1/#comment-197952 Harold Jarche Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:34:23 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3871#comment-197952 Thanks for your comment, Aaron. My observations show that education follows business, not vice versa. For example, business schools were created at the request of big business. Once business changes, education will follow. I don't look to schools for leadership: http://www.jarche.com/2009/04/dont-look-to-business-schools-for-leadership/ Institutions follow technological & organizational change: http://www.jarche.com/2009/02/institutions-follow/ That's why I believe organizational (business) change is where we need to focus. Good luck with change in the education sector. It's a tough slog! Thanks for your comment, Aaron. My observations show that education follows business, not vice versa. For example, business schools were created at the request of big business. Once business changes, education will follow. I don’t look to schools for leadership:

http://www.jarche.com/2009/04/dont-look-to-business-schools-for-leadership/

Institutions follow technological & organizational change:

http://www.jarche.com/2009/02/institutions-follow/

That’s why I believe organizational (business) change is where we need to focus.

Good luck with change in the education sector. It’s a tough slog!

]]> By: Aaron Eyler http://www.jarche.com/2010/04/instructional-or-formal-whatever/comment-page-1/#comment-197951 Aaron Eyler Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:26:05 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3871#comment-197951 I would go a step further and elaborate on getting out of our "disciplinary silos". This phenomenon can't happen overnight nor can it happen once people are hired by districts. Schools of Ed need to stop talking about interdisciplinary work and start getting pre-service teachers utilizing these practices. These individuals in higher ed also need to start working together to model what interdisciplinary learning looks like and teaching pre-service teachers to think along that context. Unlike other majors in college, the students see a model of what they are to become right in front of them. This happens from when people are 3 or 4 years old and the "kingdomized" methodology and pedagogy is entrenched in their vision before they even start working. I don't believe that professional development every so often creates strong interdisciplinary thought. It has to be a constant training process. One that has to start in Schools of Education until we can trickle it down throughout secondary ed. Until we start to cut the problem off at the pass, we stand no chance of ridding ourselves of its effects. Great post and thoughts! I would go a step further and elaborate on getting out of our “disciplinary silos”. This phenomenon can’t happen overnight nor can it happen once people are hired by districts. Schools of Ed need to stop talking about interdisciplinary work and start getting pre-service teachers utilizing these practices. These individuals in higher ed also need to start working together to model what interdisciplinary learning looks like and teaching pre-service teachers to think along that context.

Unlike other majors in college, the students see a model of what they are to become right in front of them. This happens from when people are 3 or 4 years old and the “kingdomized” methodology and pedagogy is entrenched in their vision before they even start working.

I don’t believe that professional development every so often creates strong interdisciplinary thought. It has to be a constant training process. One that has to start in Schools of Education until we can trickle it down throughout secondary ed.

Until we start to cut the problem off at the pass, we stand no chance of ridding ourselves of its effects.

Great post and thoughts!

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