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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/a-framework-for-social-learning-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-218383</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 23:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across your blog through the eLearning Technology website and I really enjoy the way that you explain things.  I too agree that social learning is the wave of the future and that a lot of training will need to go into being a leader of this type of learning environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across your blog through the eLearning Technology website and I really enjoy the way that you explain things.  I too agree that social learning is the wave of the future and that a lot of training will need to go into being a leader of this type of learning environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Expert Profile: Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expert Profile: Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A framework for social learning in the enterprise [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Library clips :: Real KM : It&#8217;s about the match play, not the scoreboard :: July :: 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Library clips :: Real KM : It&#8217;s about the match play, not the scoreboard :: July :: 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jennings (via Harold Jarche) gives us a nice way to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche &#187; Formalized informal learning: a blend we don&#8217;t need</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/a-framework-for-social-learning-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-197863</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche &#187; Formalized informal learning: a blend we don&#8217;t need</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] means a very different training department, if it&#8217;s even called that any more, as well as a new framework for informal, social learning in the enterprise. The required role for supporting workers is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: social businesses &#8211; the sociability of what? &#171; Exploratory</title>
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		<dc:creator>social businesses &#8211; the sociability of what? &#171; Exploratory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stuff &#8211; lots of posts on social learning as well so I hope to have more to say on this in due [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Larry Irons</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/a-framework-for-social-learning-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-195852</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold,

I totally agree with your point about the needless focus on individual learning. I&#039;m totally mystified by the fact that organizations routinely require at least a high school education for the most menial jobs involving manual labor and a college education for jobs involving knowledge work. Yet, HR continues to remain focused on whether individuals can be trusted to learn on their own. If the current TRAINING mentality must remain as the dominant focus then I can only surmise that what organizations need to do is develop competency tests, like reading, writing, arithmetic, and reasoning to determine who they hire. Forget about the degrees. Otherwise, organizations need to trust that people who made it through a university education actually do know how to learn. The current focus on TRAINING is in fact condescending to most individuals with a modiocre degree of cognitive competence.

All of this, however, doesn&#039;t deal with the basic question about learning in groups, or teams, in complex organizations spread across various locations. I wrote about that today,

http://skilfulminds.com/2010/03/04/social-learning-collaboration-and-team-identity/

Regards,

Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold,</p>
<p>I totally agree with your point about the needless focus on individual learning. I&#8217;m totally mystified by the fact that organizations routinely require at least a high school education for the most menial jobs involving manual labor and a college education for jobs involving knowledge work. Yet, HR continues to remain focused on whether individuals can be trusted to learn on their own. If the current TRAINING mentality must remain as the dominant focus then I can only surmise that what organizations need to do is develop competency tests, like reading, writing, arithmetic, and reasoning to determine who they hire. Forget about the degrees. Otherwise, organizations need to trust that people who made it through a university education actually do know how to learn. The current focus on TRAINING is in fact condescending to most individuals with a modiocre degree of cognitive competence.</p>
<p>All of this, however, doesn&#8217;t deal with the basic question about learning in groups, or teams, in complex organizations spread across various locations. I wrote about that today,</p>
<p><a href="http://skilfulminds.com/2010/03/04/social-learning-collaboration-and-team-identity/" rel="nofollow">http://skilfulminds.com/2010/03/04/social-learning-collaboration-and-team-identity/</a></p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<title>By: Social Learning, Collaboration, and Team Identity &#171; Skilful Minds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Learning, Collaboration, and Team Identity &#171; Skilful Minds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Learning, Collaboration, and Team&#160;Identity  Harold Jarche recently offered a framework for social learning in the enterprise in which he draws from a range of colleagues (Jay Cross, Jane Hart, George Siemens, Charles [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jessica Laasonen</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/a-framework-for-social-learning-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-195781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Laasonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying this concept. It does make sense to focus on learning through social networks. Perhaps this just means that organizations must make sure to recruit individuals who have already proved to be qualified and competent enough to be trusted with individual learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying this concept. It does make sense to focus on learning through social networks. Perhaps this just means that organizations must make sure to recruit individuals who have already proved to be qualified and competent enough to be trusted with individual learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Training individuals as a group is not the idea here. I was at first surprised when Peter Senge made the statement about individual learning, but he explained the years of research behind it. It doesn&#039;t matter what the organization does, each person is unique. Focusing on individual skills is a mug&#039;s game. Let each individual decide what is best for her or him.  

The organization should be concerned with how people work together and find ways to help them cooperate and collaborate. There is no need to manage individual learning. We don’t manage what or how our employees eat and we don’t need to manage their knowledge or learning. We can make it easier for them to learn and share knowledge though, just like putting in a cafeteria or a water fountain. Workers need support and tools to develop these personal processes but the organization should stay out of the business of individual learning and instead focus on collaboration. Organizations should focus on enabling practitioners to produce results by supporting learning through social networks. The rest is just window dressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Training individuals as a group is not the idea here. I was at first surprised when Peter Senge made the statement about individual learning, but he explained the years of research behind it. It doesn&#8217;t matter what the organization does, each person is unique. Focusing on individual skills is a mug&#8217;s game. Let each individual decide what is best for her or him.  </p>
<p>The organization should be concerned with how people work together and find ways to help them cooperate and collaborate. There is no need to manage individual learning. We don’t manage what or how our employees eat and we don’t need to manage their knowledge or learning. We can make it easier for them to learn and share knowledge though, just like putting in a cafeteria or a water fountain. Workers need support and tools to develop these personal processes but the organization should stay out of the business of individual learning and instead focus on collaboration. Organizations should focus on enabling practitioners to produce results by supporting learning through social networks. The rest is just window dressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Laasonen</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2010/02/a-framework-for-social-learning-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-195715</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Laasonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this extensive look into social learning in organizations. I fully agree on the benefits of learning as a team, and through networks rather than individuals. However, this quote raised some thoughts in me: &quot;Individual learning in organizations is basically irrelevant because work is almost never done by one person. All organizational value is created by teams and networks.&quot; I would say that whilst the benefits of social learning are evident, we should make sure that we also allow room for individual thought and development. The danger in focusing on training individuals as a group is groupthink and lack of originality. In order to manage learning efficiently we must make sure that it is still the individual effort combined in a group that the value of team consists of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this extensive look into social learning in organizations. I fully agree on the benefits of learning as a team, and through networks rather than individuals. However, this quote raised some thoughts in me: &#8220;Individual learning in organizations is basically irrelevant because work is almost never done by one person. All organizational value is created by teams and networks.&#8221; I would say that whilst the benefits of social learning are evident, we should make sure that we also allow room for individual thought and development. The danger in focusing on training individuals as a group is groupthink and lack of originality. In order to manage learning efficiently we must make sure that it is still the individual effort combined in a group that the value of team consists of.</p>
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