Comments on: Embracing complexity at work http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/ Life in Perpetual Beta Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Harold Jarche http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191960 Harold Jarche Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:23:06 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191960 Ah, I never thought of it as a graph. The image is a modified version of the one on Wikipedia's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin" rel="nofollow">cynefin article</a> (click on picture). I've referred to the cynefin framework in <a href="http://www.jarche.com/?s=cynefin" rel="nofollow">several previous articles </a>and would recommend <a href="http://www.anecdote.com.au/archives/2009/04/a_simple_explan.html" rel="nofollow">this video</a> overview. Ah, I never thought of it as a graph. The image is a modified version of the one on Wikipedia’s cynefin article (click on picture). I’ve referred to the cynefin framework in several previous articles and would recommend this video overview.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191956 Kyle Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:21:31 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191956 "What graph, Kyle?" The quadrant style graph in the article (Cynefin framework), the image, http://www.jarche.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/picture-1-400x333.png. Is it possible for a complex process to also be chaotic, or complicated, does this framework really capture and model organizational processes? “What graph, Kyle?”

The quadrant style graph in the article (Cynefin framework), the image, http://www.jarche.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/picture-1-400×333.png.

Is it possible for a complex process to also be chaotic, or complicated, does this framework really capture and model organizational processes?

]]> By: Howard Johnson http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191949 Howard Johnson Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:48:23 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191949 Harold; I love your analysis and for some reason it seemed to have touch a neuron in me somewhere. I feel like drawing a box around the left side labeled talent development. I'm think of contrasting training as skill specific and talent development as whole person - whole environment - whole organization - strategic capability development. I have experience in education, more so than on the industrial human resource side - so I'm not sure that I'm using the best terms. Do you have an opinion. Thanks Harold;
I love your analysis and for some reason it seemed to have touch a neuron in me somewhere. I feel like drawing a box around the left side labeled talent development. I’m think of contrasting training as skill specific and talent development as whole person – whole environment – whole organization – strategic capability development. I have experience in education, more so than on the industrial human resource side – so I’m not sure that I’m using the best terms. Do you have an opinion. Thanks

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191948 Harold Jarche Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:15:11 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191948 What graph, Kyle? What graph, Kyle?

]]> By: Kyle http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191947 Kyle Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:41:13 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191947 I like your organizational ideas here. Understanding complexity is a deep issue not only in learning, but is a overarching issue in modern society. While I think I understand the gist of complex/complicated/chaos/simple, I'm not sure the nomenclature and organization in the graph are as good as they could be. Does it make sense from an x/y axis perspective, what other terms could be used? I like your organizational ideas here. Understanding complexity is a deep issue not only in learning, but is a overarching issue in modern society. While I think I understand the gist of complex/complicated/chaos/simple, I’m not sure the nomenclature and organization in the graph are as good as they could be. Does it make sense from an x/y axis perspective, what other terms could be used?

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191940 Harold Jarche Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:20:50 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191940 Thanks for your comments, Virginia. I think that in complex environments, where work practices are emergent, everyone needs to play a leadership role. However, it's network leadership, not hierarchical leadership that's needed, and this turns the industrial concept of followers on its head. Thanks for your comments, Virginia. I think that in complex environments, where work practices are emergent, everyone needs to play a leadership role. However, it’s network leadership, not hierarchical leadership that’s needed, and this turns the industrial concept of followers on its head.

]]> By: virginia Yonkers http://www.jarche.com/2009/12/embracing-complexity-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-191923 virginia Yonkers Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:44:08 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=3109#comment-191923 Great post. I wish our educational system in the US would embrace this model. One idea that came to mind as I read this was that Training is appropriate in simple or highly complex systems, but facilitating and leadership is necessary in emerging systems. And by leadership, I don't mean telling people what to do, but rather making decisions when needed but also gathering information from "followers", entering into dialogue with stakeholders, scanning the environment for challenges and opportunities, and motivating others to be comfortable to think outside the box (creativity). Great post. I wish our educational system in the US would embrace this model. One idea that came to mind as I read this was that Training is appropriate in simple or highly complex systems, but facilitating and leadership is necessary in emerging systems. And by leadership, I don’t mean telling people what to do, but rather making decisions when needed but also gathering information from “followers”, entering into dialogue with stakeholders, scanning the environment for challenges and opportunities, and motivating others to be comfortable to think outside the box (creativity).

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