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		<title>By: Harold Jarche &#187; Embracing complexity at work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche &#187; Embracing complexity at work</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] &amp; effect are obvious) or complicated (cause &amp; effect can be determined through analysis). Training is of little use in developing the necessary emergent practices for dealing with complex problems in our work [...]</description>
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		<title>By: August Informal Learning Hot List &#8212; Informal Learning Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>August Informal Learning Hot List &#8212; Informal Learning Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The marginalized training function, August 5, 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;make things up&quot; is my term for developing emergent practices, or figuring out how best to deal with complex issues and problems without a &quot;how-to&quot; guide.

http://www.jarche.com/2009/04/emergent-practices-need-practice/

http://www.jarche.com/2009/05/how-complex-is-our-work/

http://www.jarche.com/2009/05/managing-emergent-practice/

http://www.jarche.com/2009/05/integrating-work-support-systems/

http://www.jarche.com/2009/07/learning-to-work-smarter/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;make things up&#8221; is my term for developing emergent practices, or figuring out how best to deal with complex issues and problems without a &#8220;how-to&#8221; guide.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jarche.com/2009/04/emergent-practices-need-practice/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jarche.com/2009/04/emergent-practices-need-practice/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by digitimmigrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by digitimmigrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gminks</title>
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		<dc:creator>gminks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, what do you mean by make things up? 

That is actually a problem I see, and a place where the training function could provide guidance. In a corporate setting, you may be able to make things up but you have to stay inside certain parameters. 

How do you learn what the parameters are? What if the parameters are -- it depends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, what do you mean by make things up? </p>
<p>That is actually a problem I see, and a place where the training function could provide guidance. In a corporate setting, you may be able to make things up but you have to stay inside certain parameters. </p>
<p>How do you learn what the parameters are? What if the parameters are &#8212; it depends?</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2009/08/the-marginalized-training-function/comment-page-1/#comment-190148</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Tony, PKM or critical thinking or logic would be basic cognitive process skills for knowledge workers, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Tony, PKM or critical thinking or logic would be basic cognitive process skills for knowledge workers, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Karrer</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2009/08/the-marginalized-training-function/comment-page-1/#comment-190146</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Karrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Harold.

&quot;Training, other than in basic processes, does not address these skills.&quot;  -- To clarify this - when you say basic processes - I think you mean things like PKM, methods, etc.  My believe is that there are gaps in many concept workers skill sets where some level of training makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Harold.</p>
<p>&#8220;Training, other than in basic processes, does not address these skills.&#8221;  &#8212; To clarify this &#8211; when you say basic processes &#8211; I think you mean things like PKM, methods, etc.  My believe is that there are gaps in many concept workers skill sets where some level of training makes sense.</p>
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