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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Collaboration</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-185559</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Collaboration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by neochild on 2008-07-28  Collaboration versus Teamwork  http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/ - bookmarked by 4 members originally [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; bookmarked by 3 members originally found by neochild on 2008-07-28  Collaboration versus Teamwork  <a href="http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/</a> &#8211; bookmarked by 4 members originally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-182224</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a lucky person, Dawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a lucky person, Dawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Poulos</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-182222</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Poulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also recognises that contributors are fallible humans who draw on all life aspects rather than bureaucratic automatons only concerned with economics and rationality. ...&quot;

I never meet these people, the ones who are only concerned with economics and rationality. A strategy based on assuming that everyone&#039;s like that, experience to the contrary, seems bound to run into trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also recognises that contributors are fallible humans who draw on all life aspects rather than bureaucratic automatons only concerned with economics and rationality. &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I never meet these people, the ones who are only concerned with economics and rationality. A strategy based on assuming that everyone&#8217;s like that, experience to the contrary, seems bound to run into trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Lubensky</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-181584</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Lubensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Mark, I get that teamwork puts high responsibility on autonomous individuals for complete and accurate input. Collaboration demands less about independent, competent input but rather a commitment to the emergence of a collective output. Collaboration acknowledges complexity and unpredictability. It also recognises that contributors are fallible humans who draw on all life aspects rather than bureaucratic automatons only concerned with economics and rationality.
The distinction is political. &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.optusnet.com.au/rlubensky/2008/07/teamwork-isnt-necessarily-collaborative.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogged here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Mark, I get that teamwork puts high responsibility on autonomous individuals for complete and accurate input. Collaboration demands less about independent, competent input but rather a commitment to the emergence of a collective output. Collaboration acknowledges complexity and unpredictability. It also recognises that contributors are fallible humans who draw on all life aspects rather than bureaucratic automatons only concerned with economics and rationality.<br />
The distinction is political. <a href="http://members.optusnet.com.au/rlubensky/2008/07/teamwork-isnt-necessarily-collaborative.html" rel="nofollow">Blogged here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-181295</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Schrage of MIT wrote a book about a decade ago, during the first wave of collaboration software, titled &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Teams-Mastering-Collaboration/dp/0385476035&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;No More Teams - Mastering the Dynamics of Creative Collaboration&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

I suspect that we will come, over time, to re-define what is a team when today one can be a member of various groups of (different) people working on different projects, whether freelance or inside a given organization.

The environment is to continuously-flowing and constantly-changing for the older notion of a team in a relatively steady-state environment to sustain long term effectiveness .. IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Schrage of MIT wrote a book about a decade ago, during the first wave of collaboration software, titled <a href="http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Teams-Mastering-Collaboration/dp/0385476035" rel="nofollow">&#8220;No More Teams &#8211; Mastering the Dynamics of Creative Collaboration&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>I suspect that we will come, over time, to re-define what is a team when today one can be a member of various groups of (different) people working on different projects, whether freelance or inside a given organization.</p>
<p>The environment is to continuously-flowing and constantly-changing for the older notion of a team in a relatively steady-state environment to sustain long term effectiveness .. IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Godzhesas</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-180940</link>
		<dc:creator>Godzhesas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that &quot;workers who can collaborate&quot; can never overcome a TEAM. Like it was written in  the good old book &quot;Peopleware&quot; - it&#039;s people that matters, and in projects people need to form a team, no team - no successful project :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that &#8220;workers who can collaborate&#8221; can never overcome a TEAM. Like it was written in  the good old book &#8220;Peopleware&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s people that matters, and in projects people need to form a team, no team &#8211; no successful project <img src='http://www.jarche.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-180938</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part I make these short posts so that I can grab these pieces when I&#039;m working on a larger project. I put this together because Mark&#039;s writing relates to wirearchy and some other things I&#039;m mulling over. I had to get it posted before I forgot it and now it&#039;s easily retrievable. Your comments help confirm that there is something to it. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part I make these short posts so that I can grab these pieces when I&#8217;m working on a larger project. I put this together because Mark&#8217;s writing relates to wirearchy and some other things I&#8217;m mulling over. I had to get it posted before I forgot it and now it&#8217;s easily retrievable. Your comments help confirm that there is something to it. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-180937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yeah .. to all three of Mark&#039;s concepts, your post and graham&#039;s comment.

Funny, and you may not believe it, but the graphic is a dead ringer for thoughts that have been floating around in my head for the last couple of months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah .. to all three of Mark&#8217;s concepts, your post and graham&#8217;s comment.</p>
<p>Funny, and you may not believe it, but the graphic is a dead ringer for thoughts that have been floating around in my head for the last couple of months.</p>
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		<title>By: graham watt</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/07/collaboration-versus-teamwork/comment-page-1/#comment-180935</link>
		<dc:creator>graham watt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to hear teamwork trashed for collaboration. To me, teamwork is 15 rafting people yahooing and flailing mightily with paddles as the roaring river itself decides their fate and they all end up going down the drain. Collaboration, on the other hand, means they decide instead to poke holes in the raft and spend the day in a quiet place, adding to each other&#039;s experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to hear teamwork trashed for collaboration. To me, teamwork is 15 rafting people yahooing and flailing mightily with paddles as the roaring river itself decides their fate and they all end up going down the drain. Collaboration, on the other hand, means they decide instead to poke holes in the raft and spend the day in a quiet place, adding to each other&#8217;s experiences.</p>
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