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	<title>Comments on: Walled Gardens</title>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/05/walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-179688</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s still training management in my mind, but sounds better than a lot of what I&#039;ve seen. A good start ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still training management in my mind, but sounds better than a lot of what I&#8217;ve seen. A good start &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many commercial LMSs allow employees to create their own learning plan. Not sure how much more management you can do beyond making your own plan. ??

So for instance, say I work at a bank and I want to be in IT but I&#039;m currently in another department. I wonder what I need to do to get there. What learning activities are available, what competencies do I need? I look and see there are some courses, a community of practice for IT, blogs, a wiki and some informal activities that include having lunch with someone in that position. I also find recommended reading and web sites, etc. and a plan for certification. And *bonus* I have a nice way to track all that in one place so that when I interview for that IT job, the hiring manager can  just look up what I&#039;ve accomplished. Sound like a pretty good way to manage learnin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many commercial LMSs allow employees to create their own learning plan. Not sure how much more management you can do beyond making your own plan. ??</p>
<p>So for instance, say I work at a bank and I want to be in IT but I&#8217;m currently in another department. I wonder what I need to do to get there. What learning activities are available, what competencies do I need? I look and see there are some courses, a community of practice for IT, blogs, a wiki and some informal activities that include having lunch with someone in that position. I also find recommended reading and web sites, etc. and a plan for certification. And *bonus* I have a nice way to track all that in one place so that when I interview for that IT job, the hiring manager can  just look up what I&#8217;ve accomplished. Sound like a pretty good way to manage learnin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/05/walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-179528</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about an LMS that helps learners manage their learning processes? LMS&#039;s manage the teaching process, the testing process and the administration process, but I have&#039;t seen much actual learnin&#039; management, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about an LMS that helps learners manage their learning processes? LMS&#8217;s manage the teaching process, the testing process and the administration process, but I have&#8217;t seen much actual learnin&#8217; management, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Clarey</title>
		<link>http://www.jarche.com/2008/05/walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-179527</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Clarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;...so thereâ€™s no need for all those tracking features.&quot; That&#039;s a can of worms. Testing isn&#039;t the only thing an organization would want to track is it? 

I guess I&#039;m a bit more pragmatic. Big ships take a long time to turn around. Based on my experience, many LMS vendors are mashing things up and integrating web 2.0 tools making social learning a reality for organizations with high security measures in place.

By putting &quot;Learning Management System&quot; in quotes and prefacing it with &quot;real,&quot; I suspect you don&#039;t see value in such systems. What makes an LMS &quot;real?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;&#8230;so thereâ€™s no need for all those tracking features.&#8221; That&#8217;s a can of worms. Testing isn&#8217;t the only thing an organization would want to track is it? </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m a bit more pragmatic. Big ships take a long time to turn around. Based on my experience, many LMS vendors are mashing things up and integrating web 2.0 tools making social learning a reality for organizations with high security measures in place.</p>
<p>By putting &#8220;Learning Management System&#8221; in quotes and prefacing it with &#8220;real,&#8221; I suspect you don&#8217;t see value in such systems. What makes an LMS &#8220;real?&#8221;</p>
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