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]]> By: Harold http://www.jarche.com/2007/09/netiquette-20/comment-page-1/#comment-139959 Harold Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:16:15 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=1299#comment-139959 OK, Jon, I'll probably keep volunteering my opinion as well, but now I'll feel better if I refuse someone. - starving in Sackville ;-) OK, Jon, I’ll probably keep volunteering my opinion as well, but now I’ll feel better if I refuse someone.

- starving in Sackville ;-)

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.jarche.com/2007/09/netiquette-20/comment-page-1/#comment-139957 Jon Husband Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:58:38 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=1299#comment-139957 <i>I have no hesitation in helping any bloggers who also make their information available. I also don’t mind helping researchers and students who are disseminating their findings. However, I’m starting to feel used in providing free (and synthesized) information or advice to someone who is being paid to collect it.</i> Boy, do I know this one .. including all sorts of people in (well) paid positions who are quizzical / skeptical, ask lots of questions, want links, etc. and then a couple of months later run around talking about all this good new stuff, with no attribution. Gee whiz, you'd think they could do some of their own research, or something. Tired of it, but have my ideals to consider. I doubt that I will stop volunteering my opinion or sharing information of which I am aware .. as I slowly starve to death ;-) My antidote also being tired off listening to myself whine ! I have no hesitation in helping any bloggers who also make their information available. I also don’t mind helping researchers and students who are disseminating their findings. However, I’m starting to feel used in providing free (and synthesized) information or advice to someone who is being paid to collect it.

Boy, do I know this one .. including all sorts of people in (well) paid positions who are quizzical / skeptical, ask lots of questions, want links, etc. and then a couple of months later run around talking about all this good new stuff, with no attribution. Gee whiz, you’d think they could do some of their own research, or something.

Tired of it, but have my ideals to consider. I doubt that I will stop volunteering my opinion or sharing information of which I am aware .. as I slowly starve to death ;-) My antidote also being tired off listening to myself whine !

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.jarche.com/2007/09/netiquette-20/comment-page-1/#comment-139948 Jon Husband Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:58:14 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=1299#comment-139948 It's about negotiation between peers in a purpoeful initiative ... of roles, who has the necessary expertise and how / where it needs to be used, getting clear together on intended or desired results, the loci of accountability, and .. letting 'er flow ! I think. It’s about negotiation between peers in a purpoeful initiative … of roles, who has the necessary expertise and how / where it needs to be used, getting clear together on intended or desired results, the loci of accountability, and .. letting ‘er flow !

I think.

]]> By: Jay Cross http://www.jarche.com/2007/09/netiquette-20/comment-page-1/#comment-139732 Jay Cross Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:38:40 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=1299#comment-139732 Right on, Harold. I've gone through a hundred of these experiences. For a number of years, I felt I was doing my part for net karma. Help people and you'll be helped. Or be reincarnated as something better than a toadstool. Requests that particularly get my goat are (a) students asking me to write their papers, (b) questions about help for something that's easily found on my site, (c) journalists who do not send a copy of the printed article. One guy asked me to prep him for a job interview because he didn't have time to do it himself; I told him he didn't deserve the job. I have to admit that I'm still as softie when it comes to helping newbies. Right on, Harold. I’ve gone through a hundred of these experiences. For a number of years, I felt I was doing my part for net karma. Help people and you’ll be helped. Or be reincarnated as something better than a toadstool. Requests that particularly get my goat are (a) students asking me to write their papers, (b) questions about help for something that’s easily found on my site, (c) journalists who do not send a copy of the printed article. One guy asked me to prep him for a job interview because he didn’t have time to do it himself; I told him he didn’t deserve the job.

I have to admit that I’m still as softie when it comes to helping newbies.

]]> By: Anne Bartlett-Bragg http://www.jarche.com/2007/09/netiquette-20/comment-page-1/#comment-139692 Anne Bartlett-Bragg Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:57:03 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=1299#comment-139692 Glad I'm not the only one experiencing this currently! I'm also finding the "demands" - not requests - are becoming more frequent and more abrasive. It's starting to spill over into presentation requests too - you're invited to present but then the "demands" for handouts (I never do handouts), Powerpoint slides 30 days in advance (I've stopped doing them too!) are becoming obnoxious and I'm starting to feel that people are taking advantage of my generosity... That's not what networks and open sharing of resources is about... Networks - online or physical - are only valuable when there is mutual respect! Seems like people are forgetting that these days! ABB ;-) Glad I’m not the only one experiencing this currently!
I’m also finding the “demands” – not requests – are becoming more frequent and more abrasive.
It’s starting to spill over into presentation requests too – you’re invited to present but then the “demands” for handouts (I never do handouts), Powerpoint slides 30 days in advance (I’ve stopped doing them too!) are becoming obnoxious and I’m starting to feel that people are taking advantage of my generosity…
That’s not what networks and open sharing of resources is about…
Networks – online or physical – are only valuable when there is mutual respect!
Seems like people are forgetting that these days!
ABB ;-)

]]> By: Scott Marshall http://www.jarche.com/2007/09/netiquette-20/comment-page-1/#comment-139527 Scott Marshall Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:11:48 +0000 http://www.jarche.com/?p=1299#comment-139527 You're quite right. I think people who work in the media (as I have done myself, here and there) sometimes assume that it is some kind of honour for a "regular person" to be called and interviewed when in fact, it can be an imposition. It is certainly not unreasonable to expect thanks when your time helps someone else hit their deadline and get paid. This is a very interesting blog you have here, by the way. I found it quite by accident yesterday while googling for information about Learning Management Systems; it's always a pleasure to find good blogs so close to home (I am in Saint John). Keep up the good work! You’re quite right. I think people who work in the media (as I have done myself, here and there) sometimes assume that it is some kind of honour for a “regular person” to be called and interviewed when in fact, it can be an imposition. It is certainly not unreasonable to expect thanks when your time helps someone else hit their deadline and get paid.

This is a very interesting blog you have here, by the way. I found it quite by accident yesterday while googling for information about Learning Management Systems; it’s always a pleasure to find good blogs so close to home (I am in Saint John). Keep up the good work!

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